UW or Dovecot IMAP - Patch Progress?

David_C_Rankin 2007-05-23 00:35:44 UTC #1

Ralf, Lars:

Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow access

to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

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Michael_Zoet 2007-05-23 05:09:04 UTC #2

Hi,

I’m using eGW 1.3.022 (1.4RC1) with dovecot (and postfix) on 2 eGW
installations (Debian Etch and Ubuntu Feisty). As far as I have tested
this setup, it works just fine on both installations. Are there any
known problems with dovecot I have not yet discovered?

Greetings,

Michael

Ralf, Lars:
Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow access 
to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

–
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Schwedenstr. 18c
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pv1 2007-05-23 07:09:55 UTC #3

Michael Zoet wrote:

I’m using eGW 1.3.022 (1.4RC1) with dovecot (and postfix) on 2 eGW
installations (Debian Etch and Ubuntu Feisty). As far as I have tested
this setup, it works just fine on both installations. Are there any
known problems with dovecot I have not yet discovered?

http://www.egroupware.org/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=tracker.uitracker.edit&tr_id=767
http://www.egroupware.org/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=tracker.uitracker.edit&tr_id=751

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Ralf_Becker_6 2007-05-23 10:05:18 UTC #4

Hi David,

I hav’nt heard anything from Lars …

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:

Ralf, Lars:
Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow access 
to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

–
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eGroupWare Training & Support ==> http://www.egroupware-support.de
Outdoor Unlimited Training GmbH [www.outdoor-training.de]
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Michael_Zoet 2007-05-24 11:45:39 UTC #5

Michael Zoet wrote:

I’m using eGW 1.3.022 (1.4RC1) with dovecot (and postfix) on 2 eGW
installations (Debian Etch and Ubuntu Feisty). As far as I have tested
this setup, it works just fine on both installations. Are there any
known problems with dovecot I have not yet discovered?

http://www.egroupware.org/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=tracker.uitracker.edit&tr_id=767
http://www.egroupware.org/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=tracker.uitracker.edit&tr_id=751

Ok I see the problem. In other IMAP clients you can set an IMAP
directory prefix like ~/Mails. Perhaps it would be nice to have the
possibility to set an IMAP directory prefix in the prefences? And tell
the administrators to setup the IMAP server to deliver to a specific
mailbox directory?

This will not fix the problem with big mailboxes. But every mail client
I know of has problems with big mailboxes…

The following is not eGW specific but perhaps someone finds it usefull:

I do not have this problem because in my /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf I
have the following:

mail_location = maildir:~/Mails

So every mail goes in mailboxes in the ~/Mails directory. For example to
/home/hugo/Mails/.

I think it is not a good idea to save all the mailboxes directly in
$HOME/. As a system administrator I like to set up the mailbox
directories explicitly. One advantage of this is, that IMAP clients need
not to search the whole home directory for the mailboxes.

In dovecot you can easily configue it with the above config line. And it
works in eGW.

In UW-Imap it is not possible to configure the mailbox location. It is
hard coded in the sources. In history there were a lot of discussion
about this uw-imap feature. Even the Debian uw-imap package had several
changes because of this. I think there are patches for the uw-imap to
point it to another directory.

A long time ago I had a similiar problem with a mail server and I could
not compile the uw-imap new. I solved it this way:
The MTA (sendmail, postfix, etc) sends incoming mail to procmail.
procmail sends this mail per user rules to the defined mailbox directory
of every user. Then I told every user to setup there IMAP clients to the
defined IMAP prefix directory. So $HOME did not get involved.

Hopes this helps someone.

Greetings,

Michael

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pv1 2007-05-24 13:12:23 UTC #6

Michael Zoet wrote:

Ok I see the problem. In other IMAP clients you can set an IMAP
directory prefix like ~/Mails. Perhaps it would be nice to have the
possibility to set an IMAP directory prefix in the prefences? And tell

That’s what I would suggest.

the administrators to setup the IMAP server to deliver to a specific
mailbox directory?

With uw-imapd this is not the point because inbox is somewhere else (i
guess it’s a compile-option, in debian it’s /var/mail/$user)

But all IMAP-Folders you create are located under
/home/$user/$prefix/$folder and therefore with FeLaMiMail everything is
found in /home/$user (lacking the posibility to define $prefix).

And now,…

This will not fix the problem with big mailboxes. But every mail client
I know of has problems with big mailboxes…

we have the “big mailbox problem” because in /home/$user there is
probaly a lots of stuff (e.g. if ~$user is used as samba-share, too etc.).

The following is not eGW specific but perhaps someone finds it usefull:

I do not have this problem because in my /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf I
have the following:

mail_location = maildir:~/Mails

dont know of such option in uwimap but anyway, I had to maintain running
systems where I couldn’t change this.

So every mail goes in mailboxes in the ~/Mails directory. For example to
/home/hugo/Mails/.

That’s what in my scenario would be the client, that is responsible for
this (or in many cases prefiltering like procmail and co)

In UW-Imap it is not possible to configure the mailbox location. It is
hard coded in the sources. In history there were a lot of discussion
about this uw-imap feature. Even the Debian uw-imap package had several
changes because of this. I think there are patches for the uw-imap to
point it to another directory.

ic
didnt read your mail to the bottom before answering… g

A long time ago I had a similiar problem with a mail server and I could
not compile the uw-imap new. I solved it this way:
The MTA (sendmail, postfix, etc) sends incoming mail to procmail.
procmail sends this mail per user rules to the defined mailbox directory
of every user. Then I told every user to setup there IMAP clients to the
defined IMAP prefix directory. So $HOME did not get involved.

yep. That is exactly what I do in a handfull of cases.

ys
Peter

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Uwe_Richter-2 2007-05-24 14:32:37 UTC #7

Hi,

Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:12:23 +0200
From: Peter Vratny peter@vratny.at
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To: discussions and questions from users and for users of eGroupWare
egroupware-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [eGroupWare-users] UW or Dovecot IMAP - Patch Progress??

Michael Zoet wrote:

Ok I see the problem. In other IMAP clients you can set an IMAP
directory prefix like ~/Mails. Perhaps it would be nice to have the
possibility to set an IMAP directory prefix in the prefences? And tell

That’s what I would suggest.

ACK.

… but the following two modifications did it for us with eGW v1.0.0.009
and
UW-IMAP-2004:

cd ./egroupware/felamimail/inc # diff class.bofelamimail.inc.php class.bofelamimail.inc.php.orig
$this->imapBaseDir = ‘mail’;
$this->imapBaseDir = ‘’;

diff class.uifelamimail.inc.php class.uifelamimail.inc.php.orig

        $folders = $this->bofelamimail->getFolderList('false');
        $folders = $this->bofelamimail->getFolderList('true');

Best regards
Uwe

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David_C_Rankin 2007-05-24 21:46:37 UTC #8

From: “Uwe Richter”

Hi,

Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:12:23 +0200
From: Peter Vratny peter@vratny.at
Reply-To: discussions and questions from users and for users of
eGroupWare
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To: discussions and questions from users and for users of eGroupWare
egroupware-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [eGroupWare-users] UW or Dovecot IMAP - Patch Progress??

Michael Zoet wrote:

Ok I see the problem. In other IMAP clients you can set an IMAP
directory prefix like ~/Mails. Perhaps it would be nice to have the
possibility to set an IMAP directory prefix in the prefences? And tell

That’s what I would suggest.

ACK.

… but the following two modifications did it for us with eGW v1.0.0.009
and
UW-IMAP-2004:

cd ./egroupware/felamimail/inc

diff class.bofelamimail.inc.php class.bofelamimail.inc.php.orig
       $this->imapBaseDir      = 'mail';
       $this->imapBaseDir      = '';
diff class.uifelamimail.inc.php class.uifelamimail.inc.php.orig
       $folders = $this->bofelamimail->getFolderList('false');
       $folders = $this->bofelamimail->getFolderList('true');
Best regards
Uwe

Thanks, Uwe:

But, in 1.3.022 changing $this->imapBaseDir = 'Mail'; in

egroupware/felamimail/inc makes no difference and there is no
getFolderList(’’); in class.uifelamimail.inc.php anymore.

Something has changed, because we didn't have any problem with 1.2.106

and the old fix you suggest doesn’t apply anymore. Hopefully, Lars has a fix
coming shortly. Thanks!

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Ralf_Becker_6 2007-05-27 10:24:59 UTC #9

Hi David, Peter and other UW Mail and Dovecot “enthusiasts”,

Lars implemented now some basic support for these two IMAP servers: if
you have a mailbox called “Mail”, it will automatically set it as prefix.

The code is in trunk and 1.4 branch, and we are building 1.4RC2 packages
at the moment. We plan to release the final 1.4 during the LinuxTag fair
in Berlin, Germany next week.

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:

Ralf, Lars:
Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow access 
to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
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pv1 2007-05-27 11:11:55 UTC #10

Ralf Becker wrote:

at the moment. We plan to release the final 1.4 during the LinuxTag fair
in Berlin, Germany next week.

Oh, this is nice to hear. Congratulation for your great work!

ys
Peter

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David_C_Rankin 2007-05-29 03:05:43 UTC #11

Ralf, Lars,

I'll say it again, you guys are awesome! I'll pull 1.4RC2 as soon as it

is ready and I’ll report back. The “Mail” prefix should do it. Thanks again!

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

Hi David, Peter and other UW Mail and Dovecot “enthusiasts”,

Lars implemented now some basic support for these two IMAP servers: if
you have a mailbox called “Mail”, it will automatically set it as prefix.

The code is in trunk and 1.4 branch, and we are building 1.4RC2 packages
at the moment. We plan to release the final 1.4 during the LinuxTag fair
in Berlin, Germany next week.

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:

Ralf, Lars:
Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow 
access
to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to
our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Ralf_Becker_6 2007-05-29 08:29:50 UTC #12

Hi David,

I fixed the problem now in trunk svn. Either update via svn (if you are
still on trunk, not 1.4) or use the attached files and store them as:

emailadmin/inc/class.ui.inc.php
emailadmin/js/jscode/editProfile.js

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:

Ralf, Lars,
I'll say it again, you guys are awesome! I'll pull 1.4RC2 as soon as it 
is ready and I’ll report back. The “Mail” prefix should do it. Thanks again!

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

From: “Ralf Becker” RalfBecker@outdoor-training.de
To: "discussions and questions from users and for users of eGroupWare"
egroupware-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [eGroupWare-users] UW or Dovecot IMAP - Patch Progress??

Hi David, Peter and other UW Mail and Dovecot “enthusiasts”,

Lars implemented now some basic support for these two IMAP servers: if
you have a mailbox called “Mail”, it will automatically set it as prefix.

The code is in trunk and 1.4 branch, and we are building 1.4RC2 packages
at the moment. We plan to release the final 1.4 during the LinuxTag fair
in Berlin, Germany next week.

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:
Ralf, Lars:
Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow 
access
to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to
our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

David_C_Rankin 2007-05-29 14:56:01 UTC #13

Ralf, Lars:

I applied the patches that Ralf sent and they work great! (1) emailadmin

now allows for the selection of “Standard Imap Server” and “SSL” … and …
the changes are saved. (2) UW-Imap now works with felamimail on 1.3.023!
Great Job…

The only oddity is that the folder list is displayed as:

INBOX

–Mail
>
–Subfolders

Instead of:

INBOX

–Subfolders

However, the display issue is small potatoes, felamimail works!

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

Hi David,

I fixed the problem now in trunk svn. Either update via svn (if you are
still on trunk, not 1.4) or use the attached files and store them as:

emailadmin/inc/class.ui.inc.php

emailadmin/js/jscode/editProfile.js

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:
Ralf, Lars,
I'll say it again, you guys are awesome! I'll pull 1.4RC2 as soon as 
it
is ready and I’ll report back. The “Mail” prefix should do it. Thanks
again!

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com

From: “Ralf Becker” RalfBecker@outdoor-training.de
To: "discussions and questions from users and for users of eGroupWare"
egroupware-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [eGroupWare-users] UW or Dovecot IMAP - Patch Progress??

Hi David, Peter and other UW Mail and Dovecot “enthusiasts”,

Lars implemented now some basic support for these two IMAP servers: if
you have a mailbox called “Mail”, it will automatically set it as prefix.

The code is in trunk and 1.4 branch, and we are building 1.4RC2 packages
at the moment. We plan to release the final 1.4 during the LinuxTag fair
in Berlin, Germany next week.

Ralf

david rankin schrieb:
Ralf, Lars:
Has there been any progress on preparing a patch that will allow
access
to Felamimail while using uw-imap or dovecot imap? I don’t mind at all
testing any patches you come up with. I am really anxious to show off to
our
firm the great improvements made in egw from 1.2 to 1.4. The invitation
is
still open to use my server as a testbed.

–
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
www.rankinlawfirm.com
–
Ralf Becker
eGroupWare Training & Support ==> http://www.egroupware-support.de
Outdoor Unlimited Training GmbH [www.outdoor-training.de]
Handelsregister HRB Kaiserslautern 3587
Geschäftsführer Birgit und Ralf Becker
Leibnizstr. 17, 67663 Kaiserslautern, Germany
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