E-Mail layouting with templates

[jaytraxx]

Hi devs,

I want to integrate a possibility to FMail to have graphically layouted
E-Mails.

I know there’s a possibility to create a template in e.g. Thunderbird,
put that Mail into the Template folder of eGW and then re-open it to
have a layouted mail. But that’s not what I mean, because I want to
achieve the following:

• Companies should be able to distribute their company-own layout for
  E-Mails; that layout should apply to all sent mails, not only to those
  being re-opened out of the template folder, e.g.
  – new mails
  – calendar mails => “mail to all participants”

• Users should not be able to “destroy” the company layout by mistake;
  means that the user just types the normal body (text) and sends the
  mail. The body is then rendered through the layout engine and afterwards
  being sent.

I personally think of a dropdown field in “mail compose” which lets the
user choose one of the installed layouts. Maybe it will be fine to have
a forced layout for some companies.

The layouts itself could be stored in a folder in .html format, same
like Thunderbirds stationery plugin does. Maybe we store it in eGWs
document folder and create a simple upload/management possibility in
E-Mail admin.

What do you think?
christian

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[jaytraxx]

Hi again,

I created a small draft of this idea. The user creates a mail like
he/she always does and sends it.

The template folder was hardcoded. In this case, the template resides in
{eGWfileFolder}/stationery/jaytraxx/index.html. “jaytraxx” was the
template name in this case. I didn’t create a “template chooser” for
this draft.

I used my thunderbird “stationery” template nearly unchanged for this test.

I attached an image which is showing the result. (Top Left: eGW compose
form, bottom right: Result displayed in Thunderbird, top right: code
snippet of the template).

What do you think?
christian

Christian Binder schrieb:

[Lars_Kneschke-2]

“Christian Binder” christian@jaytraxx.de schrieb:
Hello Christian!

What do you think?

Really good idea!

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[Leithoff_Klaus]

Does not look too bad
At first, I could not imagine the possible use. But I agree that it is an
eye-catcher.
It still may have some problems with how to put pictures in, that are either
send
with the message, or stored, where they are world accessible, and other
stuff
and expectations that are connected to fancy layout.
Regards
Klausi

[jaytraxx]

Hi Klausi,

Does not look too bad

Thx

At first, I could not imagine the possible use. But I agree that it is an
eye-catcher.

Companies want to have representative E-Mail Layouts. This solution will keep that task simple. Maybe just think of a unique Stylite mail layout which will impress your customers the same level as your website already does.

It still may have some problems with how to put pictures in, that are either
send
with the message, or stored, where they are world accessible, and other
stuff
and expectations that are connected to fancy layout.

For the first step, I’ll keep the image inclusion simple: Reference to a public webserver. Maybe I care for the image inclusion embedded in the mail later, but I see more benefits in having them outside (smaller messages).

Regards
Klausi

Greetings
christian

----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
Von: “Christian Binder” christian@jaytraxx.de
An: egroupware-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Datum: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:41:53 +0200

Hi again,

I created a small draft of this idea. The user creates a mail like
he/she always does and sends it.

The template folder was hardcoded. In this case, the template resides in
{eGWfileFolder}/stationery/jaytraxx/index.html. “jaytraxx” was the
template name in this case. I didn’t create a “template chooser” for
this draft.

I used my thunderbird “stationery” template nearly unchanged for this
test.

I attached an image which is showing the result. (Top Left: eGW compose
form, bottom right: Result displayed in Thunderbird, top right: code
snippet of the template).

What do you think?
christian

Christian Binder schrieb:

Hi devs,

I want to integrate a possibility to FMail to have graphically layouted
E-Mails.

I know there’s a possibility to create a template in e.g. Thunderbird,
put that Mail into the Template folder of eGW and then re-open it to
have a layouted mail. But that’s not what I mean, because I want to
achieve the following:

• Companies should be able to distribute their company-own layout for
  E-Mails; that layout should apply to all sent mails, not only to those
  being re-opened out of the template folder, e.g.
  – new mails
  – calendar mails => “mail to all participants”

• Users should not be able to “destroy” the company layout by mistake;
  means that the user just types the normal body (text) and sends the
  mail. The body is then rendered through the layout engine and afterwards
  being sent.

I personally think of a dropdown field in “mail compose” which lets the
user choose one of the installed layouts. Maybe it will be fine to have
a forced layout for some companies.

The layouts itself could be stored in a folder in .html format, same
like Thunderbirds stationery plugin does. Maybe we store it in eGWs
document folder and create a simple upload/management possibility in
E-Mail admin.

What do you think?
christian

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[jaytraxx]

Hi devs,

committed a first draft of this feature to trunk (r27648 and r27649). I call it “stationery”; same like Thunderbird does.

There’s a sample etemplate which makes the start easier in etemplate editor (felamimail.stationery.sample). This one can be adjusted to whatever you like. The sample really looks boring without images; but it really gets exciting when images are included (the images have to reference a public accessible webserver till now). Make use of the included CSS to adjust the style.

Create as many “stationeries” as you like, they just have to be named ‘felamimail.stationery.whatever’ in eTemplate.

Many thanks to Inspections Unlimited Franchise services (http://www.inspectionsunlimited.com) for sponsoring this feature.

Greetings
christian

Hi Klausi,

Does not look too bad

Thx

At first, I could not imagine the possible use. But I agree that it is an
eye-catcher.

Companies want to have representative E-Mail Layouts. This solution will keep that task simple. Maybe just think of a unique Stylite mail layout which will impress your customers the same level as your website already does.

It still may have some problems with how to put pictures in, that are either
send
with the message, or stored, where they are world accessible, and other
stuff
and expectations that are connected to fancy layout.

For the first step, I’ll keep the image inclusion simple: Reference to a public webserver. Maybe I care for the image inclusion embedded in the mail later, but I see more benefits in having them outside (smaller messages).

Regards
Klausi

Greetings
christian

----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
Von: “Christian Binder” christian@jaytraxx.de
An: egroupware-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Datum: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:41:53 +0200

Hi again,

I created a small draft of this idea. The user creates a mail like
he/she always does and sends it.

The template folder was hardcoded. In this case, the template resides in
{eGWfileFolder}/stationery/jaytraxx/index.html. “jaytraxx” was the
template name in this case. I didn’t create a “template chooser” for
this draft.

I used my thunderbird “stationery” template nearly unchanged for this
test.

I attached an image which is showing the result. (Top Left: eGW compose
form, bottom right: Result displayed in Thunderbird, top right: code
snippet of the template).

What do you think?
christian

Christian Binder schrieb:

Hi devs,

I want to integrate a possibility to FMail to have graphically layouted
E-Mails.

I know there’s a possibility to create a template in e.g. Thunderbird,
put that Mail into the Template folder of eGW and then re-open it to
have a layouted mail. But that’s not what I mean, because I want to
achieve the following:

• Companies should be able to distribute their company-own layout for
  E-Mails; that layout should apply to all sent mails, not only to those
  being re-opened out of the template folder, e.g.
  – new mails
  – calendar mails => “mail to all participants”

• Users should not be able to “destroy” the company layout by mistake;
  means that the user just types the normal body (text) and sends the
  mail. The body is then rendered through the layout engine and afterwards
  being sent.

I personally think of a dropdown field in “mail compose” which lets the
user choose one of the installed layouts. Maybe it will be fine to have
a forced layout for some companies.

The layouts itself could be stored in a folder in .html format, same
like Thunderbirds stationery plugin does. Maybe we store it in eGWs
document folder and create a simple upload/management possibility in
E-Mail admin.

What do you think?
christian

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[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi Christian!

jaytraxx schrieb:

There’s a sample etemplate which makes the start easier in etemplate editor
(felamimail.stationery.sample). This one can be adjusted to whatever you
like. The sample really looks boring without images; but it really gets
exciting when images are included (the images have to reference a public
accessible webserver till now). Make use of the included CSS to adjust the
style.

It would be so great to find a common way for accessing some public
accessible files in the filemanager without extra login and to offer the
files through the standard webdav.php.

Maybe, one could first check the permissions of the file path and if
these are linked to a direct file download (i.e. no directory listing)
and the respective file is “world readable”, do not ask for credentials
(session init) to refine the permissions granted? E.g. download of
/pub/images/logo.gif:

Example: Public permissions:

• / d------r-x root:root
  --pub/ d---rwxr-x root:admin—images/ d—rwxr-x root:admin
  `logo.gif ----rw-r-- user:admin
  ==> Don’t ask for permissions. It’s all readable.

Example: Non-public directory permissions:

• / d------r-x root:root
  --pub/ d---rwxr-x root:admin—images/ d—rwx— root:admin
  `logo.gif -rw-rw-r-- user:admin
  ==> Ask for credentials to refine group or user permissions and then
  decide on the return code.

Example: Non- public file permissions:

• / d------r-x root:root
  --pub/ d---rwxr-x root:admin—images/ d—rwxr-x root:admin
  `logo.gif -rw-rw---- user:admin
  ==> Ask for credentials to refine group or user permissions and then
  decide on the return code.

Example: Directory Listing:

• / d------r-x root:root
  --pub/ d---rwxr-x root:admin—images/ d—rwxr-x root:admin
  ==> Ask for permissions anyway, to distinguish what to show and what to hide.

I’ve tried to provide a download means for the sitemgr but the “download
from anywhere” feature seems to also miss in other applications (which do
not know the sitemgr user credentials for auto-login). So maybe we could
vote for above way to allow downloads from direct links (from within
external mail programs, using wget or …)?

Best regards,
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[Leithoff_Klaus]

you may mount a world-readable directory to filemanager via filemanager -
cli command
(command line tool)
pathes will be different (access through filemanager or via pure web) but
its possible if you
want that.

[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi Klaus!

Klaus schrieb:

you may mount a world-readable directory to filemanager via filemanager -
cli command (command line tool)

It’s a drawback that this does not work on installations which do not
have ssh access…

pathes will be different (access through filemanager or via pure web) but
its possible if you want that.

… That does not work then with the “download” module in sitemgr -
except, we would provide a fixed path, common for all installations, e.g.
egroupware/downloads/logo.png

The egroupware/setup would need to check rw permissions on that
egroupware/downloads/ directory and the filemgr should always have this
mounted as a default.

This would also solve the point in the road map to make the fckeditor use
images from a location also accessible through the filemgr.

We should actually find an common, easy solution for the next release…

Best regards,
Hans-Jürgen

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[Ralf_Becker_6]

Hi Hans-Juergen,

Hans-Juergen Tappe schrieb:

Hi Klaus!

Klaus schrieb:

you may mount a world-readable directory to filemanager via filemanager -
cli command (command line tool)

It’s a drawback that this does not work on installations which do not
have ssh access…

Why would you need ssh access, ftp eg. also allows to use chmod.

pathes will be different (access through filemanager or via pure web) but
its possible if you want that.

… That does not work then with the “download” module in sitemgr -
except, we would provide a fixed path, common for all installations, e.g.
egroupware/downloads/logo.png

The egroupware/setup would need to check rw permissions on that
egroupware/downloads/ directory and the filemgr should always have this
mounted as a default.

We can mount a directory anyway, eg. /phpgwapi/images, filemanager will
display it readonly, if admin did not grant write permissions.

Biggest drawback of that approach is, it does not work with multiple
instances (beside requiring write access in the docroot).

This would also solve the point in the road map to make the fckeditor use
images from a location also accessible through the filemgr.

That requires something different, we need to modify the file backend of
FCKeditor to use our vfs and not the filesystem directly.
For FMail there’s no need for a server access, as images would get attached.

We should actually find an common, easy solution for the next release…

I dont like common solutions, that require write rights in the document
root, as that’s - generally speaking - an unsave practice.

What about a GET parameter in the webdav request like
?user=anonymous&password=anonymous or better ?auth=XXXXXXX (like the
basic auth credentials, base64(user:password), which uses that user/pw
instead of sending a 401 to initiate a basic auth popup at the browser.
then we only need to add that username/password to the download module
in sitemgr. It would be off by default, but could easyly be enabled by
an administrator.

That would require to give user “anonymous” run rights to filemanager,
and therefore we would need to disable write access for anonymous users
to the vfs in general or just to directories owned by them.

Ralf

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[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi Ralf!

Ralf Becker schrieb:

Klaus schrieb:

you may mount a world-readable directory to filemanager via filemanager -
cli command (command line tool)
It’s a drawback that this does not work on installations which do not
have ssh access…
Why would you need ssh access, ftp eg. also allows to use chmod.

… It would need ssh for the CLI in order to mount the directory…

pathes will be different (access through filemanager or via pure web) but
its possible if you want that.
… That does not work then with the “download” module in sitemgr -
except, we would provide a fixed path, common for all installations, e.g.
egroupware/downloads/logo.png
The egroupware/setup would need to check rw permissions on that
egroupware/downloads/ directory and the filemgr should always have this
mounted as a default.
We can mount a directory anyway, eg. /phpgwapi/images, filemanager will
display it readonly, if admin did not grant write permissions.
Biggest drawback of that approach is, it does not work with multiple
instances (beside requiring write access in the docroot).

So let’s skip this approach.

This would also solve the point in the road map to make the fckeditor use
images from a location also accessible through the filemgr.
That requires something different, we need to modify the file backend of
FCKeditor to use our vfs and not the filesystem directly.

OK.

For FMail there’s no need for a server access, as images would get attached.

Hm… As far as I understood, there will be the possibility to use a
plain HTML template which includes images from a public location. The
public location should be somewhere accessible in the filemgr, I think.

We should actually find an common, easy solution for the next release…
I dont like common solutions, that require write rights in the document
root, as that’s - generally speaking - an unsave practice.

I totally agree (But I didn’t yet see another solution).

What about a GET parameter in the webdav request like
?user=anonymous&password=anonymous or better ?auth=XXXXXXX (like the
basic auth credentials, base64(user:password), which uses that user/pw
instead of sending a 401 to initiate a basic auth popup at the browser.
then we only need to add that username/password to the download module
in sitemgr. It would be off by default, but could easyly be enabled by
an administrator.

If you agree, I can take a look at this feature in the download module.
But again, this will only from within the sitemgr - because only the
sitemgr knows the anon user’s credentials… This would not work from
within other locations (take e.g. the situation where you want to forward
a public webdav.php link in a mail).

That would require to give user “anonymous” run rights to filemanager,
and therefore we would need to disable write access for anonymous users
to the vfs in general or just to directories owned by them.

That’s how I am using it: The anon user has permissions on filemgr but
the home and group directory access is rejected. I would not vote for
generally retracting write access. Nobody should use this but who
knows… Still, the setup should retract permissions for anon user and
group directory.

What about the “don’t ask if webdav.php accesses a o+r mode file in a o+x
directory tree” approach? It’s still the most straightforward solution -
usage-wise, I think.

Best regards,
Hans-Jürgen

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[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi!

OK, I thought a bit more about this:

A) The “don’t ask if webdav.php accesses a o+r mode file in a o+x
directory tree” approach:
–> May not work with multiple domains because the login distinguishes
which file tree to look into. (Is this true or is there a domain=
parameter?)

B) The general solution for a public directory in the web server:
–> Skip this, it’s a security issue.
–> We do need a public storage within the filemanager, accessible
through a pipe in webdav.php.

C) The sitemgr download module
–> If there should be a public access to the filemanager, a website
needs to be setup, which passes the correct credentials parameter to
the webdav.php. I will go and add this option to the download module.
–> If a plain HTML mail template wants to access images on this public
folder, it will need to use the credentials as given in the sitemgr
download module (to be implemented).
–> As the anon user needs access to the filemanager, the setup needs to
take care to retract write permissions on the anon user and group
folders in /home/. Ralf, can you please take care of this?

D) The FCKeditor will need a input module for access to the filemanager
–> For use inside the sitemgr, it should use the same ?auth= mechanism,
such that sending a link to a website image through a mail will work.
This could be implemented by some extra parameter or environment
variable when called from inside a sitemgr module.

Thanks for solving this with me,
Hans-Jürgen

Hans-Juergen Tappe schrieb:

Hi Ralf!

Ralf Becker schrieb:

Klaus schrieb:

you may mount a world-readable directory to filemanager via filemanager -
cli command (command line tool)
It’s a drawback that this does not work on installations which do not
have ssh access…
Why would you need ssh access, ftp eg. also allows to use chmod.

… It would need ssh for the CLI in order to mount the directory…

pathes will be different (access through filemanager or via pure web) but
its possible if you want that.
… That does not work then with the “download” module in sitemgr -
except, we would provide a fixed path, common for all installations, e.g.
egroupware/downloads/logo.png
The egroupware/setup would need to check rw permissions on that
egroupware/downloads/ directory and the filemgr should always have this
mounted as a default.
We can mount a directory anyway, eg. /phpgwapi/images, filemanager will
display it readonly, if admin did not grant write permissions.
Biggest drawback of that approach is, it does not work with multiple
instances (beside requiring write access in the docroot).

So let’s skip this approach.

This would also solve the point in the road map to make the fckeditor use
images from a location also accessible through the filemgr.
That requires something different, we need to modify the file backend of
FCKeditor to use our vfs and not the filesystem directly.

OK.

For FMail there’s no need for a server access, as images would get attached.

Hm… As far as I understood, there will be the possibility to use a
plain HTML template which includes images from a public location. The
public location should be somewhere accessible in the filemgr, I think.

We actually find an common, easy solution for the next release…
I dont like common solutions, that require write rights in the document
root, as that’s - generally speaking - an unsave practice.

I totally agree (But I didn’t yet see another solution).

What about a GET parameter in the webdav request like
?user=anonymous&password=anonymous or better ?auth=XXXXXXX (like the
basic auth credentials, base64(user:password), which uses that user/pw
instead of sending a 401 to initiate a basic auth popup at the browser.
then we only need to add that username/password to the download module
in sitemgr. It would be off by default, but could easyly be enabled by
an administrator.

If you agree, I can take a look at this feature in the download module.
But again, this will only from within the sitemgr - because only the
sitemgr knows the anon user’s credentials… This would not work from
within other locations (take e.g. the situation where you want to forward
a public webdav.php link in a mail).

That would require to give user “anonymous” run rights to filemanager,
and therefore we would need to disable write access for anonymous users
to the vfs in general or just to directories owned by them.

That’s how I am using it: The anon user has permissions on filemgr but
the home and group directory access is rejected. I would not vote for
generally retracting write access. Nobody should use this but who
knows… Still, the setup should retract permissions for anon user and
group directory.

What about the “don’t ask if webdav.php accesses a o+r mode file in a o+x
directory tree” approach? It’s still the most straightforward solution -
usage-wise, I think.

Best regards,
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[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi Ralf!

Ralf Becker schrieb:

What about a GET parameter in the webdav request like
?user=anonymous&password=anonymous or better ?auth=XXXXXXX (like the
basic auth credentials, base64(user:password), which uses that user/pw
instead of sending a 401 to initiate a basic auth popup at the browser.
then we only need to add that username/password to the download module
in sitemgr. It would be off by default, but could easyly be enabled by
an administrator.

Please find sample code (I didn’t yet make it an option) attached as
sitemgr-download-webdav-auth.patch in the eGroupware tracker
1901 Patches Filemanager

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Hi Hans-Juergen,

Hans-Juergen Tappe schrieb:

Hi!

OK, I thought a bit more about this:

A) The “don’t ask if webdav.php accesses a o+r mode file in a o+x
directory tree” approach:
–> May not work with multiple domains because the login distinguishes
which file tree to look into. (Is this true or is there a domain=
parameter?)

It depends on the installation, if the instance is selected from the
domain used in the url or from the login name. Recommended is definitely
the first (instance name match domain name of url).

B) The general solution for a public directory in the web server:
–> Skip this, it’s a security issue.
–> We do need a public storage within the filemanager, accessible
through a pipe in webdav.php.

C) The sitemgr download module
–> If there should be a public access to the filemanager, a website
needs to be setup, which passes the correct credentials parameter to
the webdav.php. I will go and add this option to the download module.

Ok

–> If a plain HTML mail template wants to access images on this public
folder, it will need to use the credentials as given in the sitemgr
download module (to be implemented).

Ok

–> As the anon user needs access to the filemanager, the setup needs to
take care to retract write permissions on the anon user and group
folders in /home/. Ralf, can you please take care of this?

It’s not that simple. If setup creates
dr-x------ anonymous root /home/anonymous
Anonymous user can give himself the write rights again, as he is the
owner of that directory. I need to implement something in vfs, to not
check owner rights, if user is anonymous.

D) The FCKeditor will need a input module for access to the filemanager
–> For use inside the sitemgr, it should use the same ?auth= mechanism,
such that sending a link to a website image through a mail will work.
This could be implemented by some extra parameter or environment
variable when called from inside a sitemgr module.

The problem might be, that we need both:

• currently implemented way of browsing pictures in directories inside
  the docroot and inserting img tag with just the url of picture
• browsing of (anonymous) accessible pictures in vfs and inserting an
  img tag with webdav url

The GET parameter auth=… is anyway only used, if there’s not already
a session. So regular access via sitemgr, does NOT need it, as there’s
already a session. Only if you bookmark a download link or mail it to
someone, you need that parameter - thought it does not hurt in the other
cases.

You’re sure you dont want to participate in the project

You should come and visit us at Stylite in Kirchheimbolanden, as you
live just a few km’s away. You are more then welcome, just let me know
in advance, as I’m working from my home office in Kaiserslautern most of
the time.

Ralf

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[Ralf_Becker_6]

Hi Hans-Jürgen,

just commited a modified webdav.php file, allowing to use GET parameter
"auth" instead of an Authentication header:

http://www.egroupware.org/viewvc/egroupware?view=rev&revision=27668

Ralf

Ralf Becker schrieb:

Hi Hans-Juergen,

Hans-Juergen Tappe schrieb:

Hi!

OK, I thought a bit more about this:

A) The “don’t ask if webdav.php accesses a o+r mode file in a o+x
directory tree” approach:
–> May not work with multiple domains because the login distinguishes
which file tree to look into. (Is this true or is there a domain=
parameter?)

It depends on the installation, if the instance is selected from the
domain used in the url or from the login name. Recommended is definitely
the first (instance name match domain name of url).

B) The general solution for a public directory in the web server:
–> Skip this, it’s a security issue.
–> We do need a public storage within the filemanager, accessible
through a pipe in webdav.php.

C) The sitemgr download module
–> If there should be a public access to the filemanager, a website
needs to be setup, which passes the correct credentials parameter to
the webdav.php. I will go and add this option to the download module.

Ok

–> If a plain HTML mail template wants to access images on this public
folder, it will need to use the credentials as given in the sitemgr
download module (to be implemented).

Ok

–> As the anon user needs access to the filemanager, the setup needs to
take care to retract write permissions on the anon user and group
folders in /home/. Ralf, can you please take care of this?

It’s not that simple. If setup creates
dr-x------ anonymous root /home/anonymous
Anonymous user can give himself the write rights again, as he is the
owner of that directory. I need to implement something in vfs, to not
check owner rights, if user is anonymous.

D) The FCKeditor will need a input module for access to the filemanager
–> For use inside the sitemgr, it should use the same ?auth= mechanism,
such that sending a link to a website image through a mail will work.
This could be implemented by some extra parameter or environment
variable when called from inside a sitemgr module.

The problem might be, that we need both:

• currently implemented way of browsing pictures in directories inside
  the docroot and inserting img tag with just the url of picture
• browsing of (anonymous) accessible pictures in vfs and inserting an
  img tag with webdav url

The GET parameter auth=… is anyway only used, if there’s not already
a session. So regular access via sitemgr, does NOT need it, as there’s
already a session. Only if you bookmark a download link or mail it to
someone, you need that parameter - thought it does not hurt in the other
cases.

You’re sure you dont want to participate in the project

You should come and visit us at Stylite in Kirchheimbolanden, as you
live just a few km’s away. You are more then welcome, just let me know
in advance, as I’m working from my home office in Kaiserslautern most of
the time.

Ralf

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fax +49 (0) 6352 70629-30
mailto: rb@stylite.de

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[Nathan_Gray-2]

It depends on the installation, if the instance is selected from the
domain used in the url or from the login name. Recommended is
definitely
the first (instance name match domain name of url).

… but please don’t forget those of us using multiple instances under
one domain / URL.

Nathan Gray
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[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi Ralf!

Ralf Becker schrieb:

just commited a modified webdav.php file, allowing to use GET parameter
"auth" instead of an Authentication header:
http://www.egroupware.org/viewvc/egroupware?view=rev&revision=27668

I added the configuration checkbox which allows to disable unattended
downloads. It’s now in the patch sitemgr-download-webdav-auth.patch in
the eGroupware tracker
1901 Patches Filemanager

You’re sure you dont want to participate in the project

I’m be very busy in September but I’ll come back to you later this year.

Best regards,
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[Hans-Jurgen_Tappe]

Hi Nathan!

Nathan Gray schrieb:

It depends on the installation, if the instance is selected from the
domain used in the url or from the login name. Recommended is
definitely
the first (instance name match domain name of url).
… but please don’t forget those of us using multiple instances under
one domain / URL.

We won’t go that way. Don’t worry.
It was just one out of many ideas how to solve this usability problem,
which turned out not to represent the best solution.

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[jaytraxx]

Just committed the next step for the stationery feature to /trunk:

Stationery templates (which are stored in etemplate) can now be mapped in emailadmin to mail profiles. So far, companies will be able to distribute specific templates to groups of users or have a lot of hidden templates for testing purposes.

Have fun! …
(thx again to Inspections Unlimited)
jaytraxx

Hi devs,

committed a first draft of this feature to trunk (r27648 and r27649). I call it “stationery”; same like Thunderbird does.

There’s a sample etemplate which makes the start easier in etemplate editor (felamimail.stationery.sample). This one can be adjusted to whatever you like. The sample really looks boring without images; but it really gets exciting when images are included (the images have to reference a public accessible webserver till now). Make use of the included CSS to adjust the style.

Create as many “stationeries” as you like, they just have to be named ‘felamimail.stationery.whatever’ in eTemplate.

Many thanks to Inspections Unlimited Franchise services (http://www.inspectionsunlimited.com) for sponsoring this feature.

Greetings
christian

Hi Klausi,

Does not look too bad

Thx

At first, I could not imagine the possible use. But I agree that it is an
eye-catcher.

Companies want to have representative E-Mail Layouts. This solution will keep that task simple. Maybe just think of a unique Stylite mail layout which will impress your customers the same level as your website already does.

It still may have some problems with how to put pictures in, that are either
send
with the message, or stored, where they are world accessible, and other
stuff
and expectations that are connected to fancy layout.

For the first step, I’ll keep the image inclusion simple: Reference to a public webserver. Maybe I care for the image inclusion embedded in the mail later, but I see more benefits in having them outside (smaller messages).

Regards
Klausi

Greetings
christian

----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
Von: “Christian Binder” christian@jaytraxx.de
An: egroupware-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Datum: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:41:53 +0200

Hi again,

I created a small draft of this idea. The user creates a mail like
he/she always does and sends it.

The template folder was hardcoded. In this case, the template resides in
{eGWfileFolder}/stationery/jaytraxx/index.html. “jaytraxx” was the
template name in this case. I didn’t create a “template chooser” for
this draft.

I used my thunderbird “stationery” template nearly unchanged for this
test.

I attached an image which is showing the result. (Top Left: eGW compose
form, bottom right: Result displayed in Thunderbird, top right: code
snippet of the template).

What do you think?
christian

Christian Binder schrieb:

Hi devs,

I want to integrate a possibility to FMail to have graphically layouted
E-Mails.

I know there’s a possibility to create a template in e.g. Thunderbird,
put that Mail into the Template folder of eGW and then re-open it to
have a layouted mail. But that’s not what I mean, because I want to
achieve the following:

• Companies should be able to distribute their company-own layout for
  E-Mails; that layout should apply to all sent mails, not only to those
  being re-opened out of the template folder, e.g.
  – new mails
  – calendar mails => “mail to all participants”

• Users should not be able to “destroy” the company layout by mistake;
  means that the user just types the normal body (text) and sends the
  mail. The body is then rendered through the layout engine and afterwards
  being sent.

I personally think of a dropdown field in “mail compose” which lets the
user choose one of the installed layouts. Maybe it will be fine to have
a forced layout for some companies.

The layouts itself could be stored in a folder in .html format, same
like Thunderbirds stationery plugin does. Maybe we store it in eGWs
document folder and create a simple upload/management possibility in
E-Mail admin.

What do you think?
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[jaytraxx]

Just committed the next step for the stationery feature to /trunk:

Stationery templates (which are stored in etemplate) can now be mapped in emailadmin to mail profiles. So far, companies will be able to distribute specific templates to groups of users or have a lot of hidden templates for testing purposes.

Have fun! …
(thx again to Inspections Unlimited)
jaytraxx

Hi devs,

committed a first draft of this feature to trunk (r27648 and r27649). I call it “stationery”; same like Thunderbird does.

There’s a sample etemplate which makes the start easier in etemplate editor (felamimail.stationery.sample). This one can be adjusted to whatever you like. The sample really looks boring without images; but it really gets exciting when images are included (the images have to reference a public accessible webserver till now). Make use of the included CSS to adjust the style.

Create as many “stationeries” as you like, they just have to be named ‘felamimail.stationery.whatever’ in eTemplate.

Many thanks to Inspections Unlimited Franchise services (http://www.inspectionsunlimited.com) for sponsoring this feature.

Greetings
christian

Hi Klausi,

Does not look too bad

Thx

At first, I could not imagine the possible use. But I agree that it is an
eye-catcher.

Companies want to have representative E-Mail Layouts. This solution will keep that task simple. Maybe just think of a unique Stylite mail layout which will impress your customers the same level as your website already does.

It still may have some problems with how to put pictures in, that are either
send
with the message, or stored, where they are world accessible, and other
stuff
and expectations that are connected to fancy layout.

For the first step, I’ll keep the image inclusion simple: Reference to a public webserver. Maybe I care for the image inclusion embedded in the mail later, but I see more benefits in having them outside (smaller messages).

Regards
Klausi

Greetings
christian

----------------ursprüngliche Nachricht-----------------
Von: “Christian Binder” christian@jaytraxx.de
An: egroupware-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Datum: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:41:53 +0200

Hi again,

I created a small draft of this idea. The user creates a mail like
he/she always does and sends it.

The template folder was hardcoded. In this case, the template resides in
{eGWfileFolder}/stationery/jaytraxx/index.html. “jaytraxx” was the
template name in this case. I didn’t create a “template chooser” for
this draft.

I used my thunderbird “stationery” template nearly unchanged for this
test.

I attached an image which is showing the result. (Top Left: eGW compose
form, bottom right: Result displayed in Thunderbird, top right: code
snippet of the template).

What do you think?
christian

Christian Binder schrieb:

Hi devs,

I want to integrate a possibility to FMail to have graphically layouted
E-Mails.

I know there’s a possibility to create a template in e.g. Thunderbird,
put that Mail into the Template folder of eGW and then re-open it to
have a layouted mail. But that’s not what I mean, because I want to
achieve the following:

• Companies should be able to distribute their company-own layout for
  E-Mails; that layout should apply to all sent mails, not only to those
  being re-opened out of the template folder, e.g.
  – new mails
  – calendar mails => “mail to all participants”

• Users should not be able to “destroy” the company layout by mistake;
  means that the user just types the normal body (text) and sends the
  mail. The body is then rendered through the layout engine and afterwards
  being sent.

I personally think of a dropdown field in “mail compose” which lets the
user choose one of the installed layouts. Maybe it will be fine to have
a forced layout for some companies.

The layouts itself could be stored in a folder in .html format, same
like Thunderbirds stationery plugin does. Maybe we store it in eGWs
document folder and create a simple upload/management possibility in
E-Mail admin.

What do you think?
christian

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