MyDMS Version 1.6

Aquaman 2006-11-20 09:42:04 UTC #1

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS (1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in the present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.

ralfbecker_dr 2006-11-20 10:11:59 UTC #2

Hi,

the plans are to integrate MyDMS and filemanger under a “new” single
frontend, which can use several backends:

with and without versioning
home directories for users and groups
free directories like on a file server
virtual directories from entries of eGW applications (specially
projectmanager and addressbook)

Ralf

Aquaman schrieb:

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS (1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in the
present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.

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Lars_Kneschke-2 2006-11-20 11:16:30 UTC #3

Aquaman comunicacion@flopsestudio.com schrieb:

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS (1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in the
present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.
No. That will not happen. We did rework to much of mydms to get it working
with eGW and as Ralf wrote already, we plan to write a new DMS system for
eGW which will replace MyDMS.
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r2gnl 2006-11-20 11:56:34 UTC #4

Hi Ralf,

Could you give an indication for which roadmap your looking to
integrate it all?
As I can’t find it on the roadmap for 1.4.

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Knappe 2006-11-20 21:22:04 UTC #5

Yes,

and are there feature requests for the new version possible ?

Op 20-nov-2006, om 11:11 heeft egroupware-developers-
request@lists.sourceforge.net het volgende geschreven:

Hi,

the plans are to integrate MyDMS and filemanger under a “new” single
frontend, which can use several backends:

with and without versioning

home directories for users and groups

free directories like on a file server

virtual directories from entries of eGW applications (specially
projectmanager and addressbook)

Ralf

Aquaman schrieb:

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS
(1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in
the
present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.

–
eGroupWare Training & Support ==> http://www.egroupware-support.de
1.2 Release Offer: 250Euro for a Standard Update or Installation
including 1h Telefonsupport und ein gedrucktes deutsches Handbuch

Hi Ralf,

Could you give an indication for which roadmap your looking to
integrate it all?
As I can’t find it on the roadmap for 1.4.

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands

Artoge

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ralfbecker_dr 2006-11-20 21:26:06 UTC #6

Sure

If you really require something, you might consider sponsoring it

Ralf

Knappe schrieb:

Yes,

and are there feature requests for the new version possible ?

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands-3 wrote:

Hi,

the plans are to integrate MyDMS and filemanger under a “new” single
frontend, which can use several backends:

with and without versioning

home directories for users and groups

free directories like on a file server

virtual directories from entries of eGW applications (specially
projectmanager and addressbook)

Ralf

Aquaman schrieb:

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS
(1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in
the
present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.
–
eGroupWare Training & Support ==> http://www.egroupware-support.de
1.2 Release Offer: 250Euro for a Standard Update or Installation
including 1h Telefonsupport und ein gedrucktes deutsches Handbuch
Hi Ralf,

Could you give an indication for which roadmap your looking to
integrate it all?
As I can’t find it on the roadmap for 1.4.

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands

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Knappe 2006-11-21 08:11:13 UTC #7

Sponsoring :
yes : idears, functions, technical authority, testing, etc.
no : money

What I ment :

Bulk import and export-functions (structure from/to zip.files, directory-trees…)
automatic translations from keywords/comments (into/from different languages) for better search-cabillities
more usabillity in the integration from eGroupware itself (documents->users->mail->adresses->receive-mails->calendar…)
some API´s to CMS-Systems (calendar, documents,…)
API´s to scanning-software (i.e. xsane (linux), vintasoft (activeX-control, windows), etc.)
and a lot more …

Sure

If you really require something, you might consider sponsoring it

Ralf

Knappe schrieb:

Yes,

and are there feature requests for the new version possible ?

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands-3 wrote:

Op 20-nov-2006, om 11:11 heeft egroupware-developers-
request@lists.sourceforge.net het volgende geschreven:

Hi,

the plans are to integrate MyDMS and filemanger under a “new” single
frontend, which can use several backends:

with and without versioning

home directories for users and groups

free directories like on a file server

virtual directories from entries of eGW applications (specially
projectmanager and addressbook)

Ralf

Aquaman schrieb:

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS
(1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in
the
present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.
–
eGroupWare Training & Support ==> http://www.egroupware-support.de
1.2 Release Offer: 250Euro for a Standard Update or Installation
including 1h Telefonsupport und ein gedrucktes deutsches Handbuch
Hi Ralf,

Could you give an indication for which roadmap your looking to
integrate it all?
As I can’t find it on the roadmap for 1.4.

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands

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Stefano_Salvador-2 2006-11-21 09:14:03 UTC #8

Hi all,

I (now with the great help of a collegue of mine) am developing the stream
infrastructure for egroupware (or what I hope will become that).

The basic ideas behind streams is to implement different protocols for
different functionalities, wrapping all together with a super-stream which
dispatches the requests and uniform the access to files stored on different
places. the main advantages of streams are :

you can use standard function for accessing all your files
they can be associated with filters, php has built-in compressing filters.
the id of the file in streams is its URL (or better the URI) so sharing and
linking files is very easy.

Now we have developed a first working example that runs in egw, it constists
of:

an example storage:// stream which implements almost all functionalities
needed by a dms (or better: all those needed by my organizzation
an almost complete vfs:// stream which “mounts” other streams and wraps
them.

test cases are going well and we can already do funny things using built-in
php stream and ours.

What it’s still missing is the acl integration, we are still uncertain if it
is better to put it in the vfs wrapper or in the single streams. the second
seems more natural but has the great problem of how to manage the built-in
streams.

Bye,

Stefano

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Cornelius_Weiss-4 2006-11-21 10:10:21 UTC #9

Hi Stefano,

great to hear from you again!

i think acl must be handled by the strams itselve. But i also see the
difficulties.
Maybe it’s an idea to handle parts of this problem with (php5)
exceptions. Buildin streams will also throw exeptions if something
with native acl goes wrong.

cu
cornelius

ralfbecker_dr 2006-11-21 10:16:38 UTC #10

Hi,

most of what you need can easily be handled by using the WebDAV
interface. Thats already available for the filemanger (in trunk and the
later 1.2 revisions).
You can mount it in windows AND linux and you can eg. drop a whole
folder structure there in the explorer.
You can open the files with every windows or KDE program, you scanner is
no problem.
Support for virtual filesystems of eg. projectmanager, but also calendar
or SiteMgr is possible.

Ralf

Knappe schrieb:

Sponsoring :
yes : idears, functions, technical authority, testing, etc.
no : money

What I ment :

Bulk import and export-functions (structure from/to zip.files,
directory-trees…)

automatic translations from keywords/comments (into/from different
languages) for better search-cabillities

more usabillity in the integration from eGroupware itself
(documents->users->mail->adresses->receive-mails->calendar…)

some API´s to CMS-Systems (calendar, documents,…)

API´s to scanning-software (i.e. xsane (linux), vintasoft
(activeX-control, windows), etc.)

and a lot more …

Ralf Becker wrote:

Sure

If you really require something, you might consider sponsoring it

Ralf

Knappe schrieb:

Yes,

and are there feature requests for the new version possible ?

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands-3 wrote:

Hi,

the plans are to integrate MyDMS and filemanger under a “new” single
frontend, which can use several backends:

with and without versioning

home directories for users and groups

free directories like on a file server

virtual directories from entries of eGW applications (specially
projectmanager and addressbook)

Ralf

Aquaman schrieb:

Is there any plan to integrate in EGW the last version of MyDMS
(1.6b)?

I have reviewed the changes log, and I think some of the issues in
the
present version in EGW(1.2) are solved in this one.
–
eGroupWare Training & Support ==> http://www.egroupware-support.de
1.2 Release Offer: 250Euro for a Standard Update or Installation
including 1h Telefonsupport und ein gedrucktes deutsches Handbuch
Hi Ralf,

Could you give an indication for which roadmap your looking to
integrate it all?
As I can’t find it on the roadmap for 1.4.

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands

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r2gnl 2006-11-21 10:50:20 UTC #11

Hi Ralf,

Yes I’m considering it, but I want to understand first where egw is
going to.
Some of the features I might want may not be for egw at all.
Therefor I’m reading everything I can on doc’s and roadplans
Until now egw has installed fine on macos x, as a test platform.
Within a couple of months, i’ll be using it on a hosted server in
production.
(which gives me trouble to install right now LOL!)
After that I probable will need some features faster and sponsering
is indeed the easiest way.

But trying to understand first, so as I look to the doc’s, it seems
to me that some info hasn’t been updated lately,
for example :

roadplan 1.2. (proposal release date & finish status).
roadplan after 1.2 (say 1.3 or 1.4 aka any idea’s on dev, as seen
as respons to this tread).
newmembers - doc ( it’s still on draft)

Are these also items on the coming dev meeting?
I would like the contribute before I’m sponsering my needs

Remco

Ralf Becker wrote:

Sure

If you really require something, you might consider sponsoring it

Ralf

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands

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Stefano_Salvador-2 2006-11-21 11:00:57 UTC #12

Maybe it’s an idea to handle parts of this problem with (php5)
exceptions. Buildin streams will also throw exeptions if something
with native acl goes wrong.

Probably it’s me, but the problem is a bit difficult.

We can summarize the communication process as:

eGW <-----------> streams <------------> resources

where “resources” can be the physical file or everything managed by the
stream.

Beetwen eGW and the stream we have eGW ACL, beetwen streams and resources we
have the specific ACL of the stream (e.g. ftp user, accounts on the
system, …): mapping this two identities is not so easy.

Let’s analize some case:

“custom streams” : we can insert ACL management in stream itself, no problem
here (besides actually writing the code).

“built-in streams that require remote authentication” (ftp, svn, samba,
…):
they can be handled defining a user fstab with personal credential that we
pass to the stream. This works but we must think of a system for supporting
functions like “chmod”.

“built-in streams that require local authentication” (only file): they must
be
handled in a different way, probably it’s better to not handle this at all
and wrapping the access to file-system with a custom stream (egwfile ?).

any other example? considerations?

Bye, Stefano

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ralfbecker_dr 2006-11-21 11:44:59 UTC #13

Hi Remco,

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands schrieb:

Hi Ralf,

Yes I’m considering it, but I want to understand first where egw is
going to.
Some of the features I might want may not be for egw at all.
Therefor I’m reading everything I can on doc’s and roadplans
Until now egw has installed fine on macos x, as a test platform.
Within a couple of months, i’ll be using it on a hosted server in
production.
(which gives me trouble to install right now LOL!)
After that I probable will need some features faster and sponsering is
indeed the easiest way.

But trying to understand first, so as I look to the doc’s, it seems to
me that some info hasn’t been updated lately,
for example :

roadplan 1.2. (proposal release date & finish status).

1.2 is released, why should anyone update the roadmap.

roadplan after 1.2 (say 1.3 or 1.4 aka any idea’s on dev, as seen as
respons to this tread).

The 1.4 roadmap is on the website and gets updated from time to time.

newmembers - doc ( it’s still on draft)

We never finalised it, but we use it as it is

Are these also items on the coming dev meeting?

The 1.4 release is on the agenda, for everything else have a look at the
agenda / schedule.

I would like the contribute before I’m sponsering my needs

Sure

Ralf

Remco

Op 21-nov-2006, om 10:43 heeft
egroupware-developers-request@lists.sourceforge.net
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volgende geschreven:

Ralf Becker wrote:

Sure

If you really require something, you might consider sponsoring it

Ralf

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands

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