Onmouseover and hover changes

Jerry_Ruhe 2006-12-02 18:34:10 UTC #1

With IE7 out the door, im debating if i should (in the jerryr template)
remove the onmouseover for the appbar icons background and simply user the
:hover in css. IE7 will now do the hover on td’s. ofcourse doing so would
leave anyone not using IE7 (or mozilla browsers) behind. personally, i opt
for the :hover and simply give the td a class. IE does support hover on <a

's with 's but its tricky to do in the template.
from a corporate standpoint, IE7 may not be endorsed just yet, I know its
not for my companies, but even so, its purley a cosmetic thing.
thougts? objections?

Jer

r2gnl 2006-12-03 09:41:51 UTC #2

Hi Jer,

As IE7 is not a open standard I would suggest to build your template
as close to open standerds as possible.
If that would mean to build several browser depending options, make
it so.
For myself, I’m not using IE7 and it will take at least a good year
before we would even consider for new systems or clients.
As we use mostly mozilla (on pc and mac) or safari (mac only clients)
as browser.

just my 2 cents,

Remco

With IE7 out the door, im debating if i should (in the jerryr
template)
remove the onmouseover for the appbar icons background and simply
user the
:hover in css. IE7 will now do the hover on td’s. ofcourse doing so
would
leave anyone not using IE7 (or mozilla browsers) behind.
personally, i opt
for the :hover and simply give the td a class. IE does support
hover on <a

's with 's but its tricky to do in the template.
from a corporate standpoint, IE7 may not be endorsed just yet, I
know its
not for my companies, but even so, its purley a cosmetic thing.
thougts? objections?

Jer

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Nathan_Gray-2 2006-12-04 15:22:24 UTC #3

from a corporate standpoint, IE7 may not be endorsed just yet, I
know its not for my companies, but even so, its purley a cosmetic
thing.
thougts? objections?

Personally, I’m all for “Go with the standards, it’s IE that’s
broken”. :hover is in the specifications, is it not?
Our windows guy says IE7 is a critical update, so if people are doing
their updates, they should all have IE7 in short order (if they’re
not doing their windows updates, they may have more problems).

Nathan Gray
nathan at goarctic dot com

Jerry_Ruhe 2006-12-04 17:44:05 UTC #4

correct :hover is a standard, but IE classifies it as UNKNOWN for td’s. IE7
could be seen as a critical update but unfortunatly some companies will not
support until all testing is complete. BMW (as an example) has a lot of
internal systems which depend on a specific version of IE and the IT/IS
dept have explicitly requested IE7 not be installed at this time. So I make
the assumption that there are other companies doing the same. hmm, i think
i answered my own question. ive since made the changes to utilize
onmouseover instead for the moment so that the template works the way id
like it to in the broadest range of browsers possible.
Ill be commiting a number of changes/fixes soon. theres quite a number of
them, some subtle and some quite obvious. all in all, i think it will be an
improvement. Id send a screenshot, but i should get the updates commited
this week.

Thanks for all the input, makes decision steering easier

cheers
jer

from a corporate standpoint, IE7 may not be endorsed just yet, I
know its not for my companies, but even so, its purley a cosmetic
thing.
thougts? objections?

Personally, I’m all for “Go with the standards, it’s IE that’s
broken”. :hover is in the specifications, is it not?
Our windows guy says IE7 is a critical update, so if people are doing
their updates, they should all have IE7 in short order (if they’re
not doing their windows updates, they may have more problems).

Nathan Gray
nathan at goarctic dot com

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