Slovensko vs Slovensky

Mgr_Peter_Tuharsky_M 2006-02-13 13:23:59 UTC #1

Hallo,

I'm starting the slovak (sk) translation of most important parts of

eGroupware. I have noticed one conflict however:
there already is slovenian (sl) translation listed under the name
"Slovensko". The word “Slovensko” is the equivalent of "Slovak Republic"
and thus it is misleading when selecting the right language.

I suggest the "Slovensko" to be replaced with "Slovenian" for sl and

“Slovensky” for sk. This should be tollerable for everyone.

Sincerely
   Mgr. Peter Tuharsky

This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files
for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes
searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642

eGroupWare-developers mailing list
eGroupWare-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-developers

Oscar_Manuel_Gomez_S 2006-02-14 09:43:24 UTC #2

Mgr. Peter Tuharsky escribió:

Hallo,

I’m starting the slovak (sk) translation of most important parts of
eGroupware. I have noticed one conflict however:
there already is slovenian (sl) translation listed under the name
"Slovensko". The word “Slovensko” is the equivalent of "Slovak Republic"
and thus it is misleading when selecting the right language.

I suggest the “Slovensko” to be replaced with “Slovenian” for sl and
"Slovensky" for sk. This should be tollerable for everyone.

Ok, thanks. I commit this change in some minutes.

Regards.

----------------------------------------------------------------------|
http://counter.li.org info: Linux user: 92390 - Linux machine: 39301 |
Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla - mailto:omgs@escomposlinux.org |
GPG Key at http://pgp.escomposlinux.org |
----------------------------------------------------------------------|

eGroupWare-developers mailing list
eGroupWare-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-developers

Drago_Bokal 2006-02-17 03:37:22 UTC #3

Dear Peter,

Slovensko is equivalent to “Slovenian” in Slovenian. Thus, in your
terms, you are suggesting to
replace “Slovensky” with “Slovakian”. Would that be OK with you?

Regards,
Drago Bokal

Mgr. Peter Tuharsky je dne 13.2.2006 5:23 napisal(a):

Hallo,

I’m starting the slovak (sk) translation of most important parts of
eGroupware. I have noticed one conflict however:
there already is slovenian (sl) translation listed under the name
"Slovensko". The word “Slovensko” is the equivalent of “Slovak
Republic” and thus it is misleading when selecting the right language.

I suggest the “Slovensko” to be replaced with “Slovenian” for sl
and “Slovensky” for sk. This should be tollerable for everyone.

Sincerely
Mgr. Peter Tuharsky

This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log
files
for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes
searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642

eGroupWare-developers mailing list
eGroupWare-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-developers

eGroupWare-developers mailing list
eGroupWare-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-developers

Drago_Bokal 2006-02-17 03:39:33 UTC #4

Dear Oscar and Peter,

I strongly disagree about changing language translations without
contacting the translators. Please revert the changes until we find a
solution that is acceptable to both languages.

Regards,
Drago

Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla je dne 14.2.2006 1:43 napisal(a):

Oscar_Manuel_Gomez_S 2006-02-17 10:31:07 UTC #5

Drago Bokal escribió:

Dear Oscar and Peter,

I strongly disagree about changing language translations without
contacting the translators. Please revert the changes until we find a
solution that is acceptable to both languages.

Well, from the computer point of view, only changed the description from
"Slovensko" to “Slovenian” for sl, and a new language, sk, was added
with the name “Slovensky”, so let’s keep it like this just until you
reach and agreement.

Regards.

Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla je dne 14.2.2006 1:43 napisal(a):

Mgr. Peter Tuharsky escribió:

Hallo,

I’m starting the slovak (sk) translation of most important parts of
eGroupware. I have noticed one conflict however:
there already is slovenian (sl) translation listed under the name
"Slovensko". The word “Slovensko” is the equivalent of "Slovak Republic"
and thus it is misleading when selecting the right language.

I suggest the “Slovensko” to be replaced with “Slovenian” for sl and
"Slovensky" for sk. This should be tollerable for everyone.

Ok, thanks. I commit this change in some minutes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------|
http://counter.li.org info: Linux user: 92390 - Linux machine: 39301 |
Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla - mailto:omgs@escomposlinux.org |
GPG Key at http://pgp.escomposlinux.org |
----------------------------------------------------------------------|

eGroupWare-developers mailing list
eGroupWare-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-developers

Drago_Bokal 2006-02-18 00:52:37 UTC #6

Is this description in the language table, or somewhere else? I would
appreciate to know where the text appears; I assume that only on the
list of languages?

A possibility that could fit both would be “Slovenski jezik”. I believe
this is distinct enough from “Slovenský jazyk”. Does Peter agree?

Drago

Oscar Manuel Gómez Senovilla je dne 17.2.2006 2:31 napisal(a):

Peter_Eisentraut-2 2006-02-18 21:45:27 UTC #7

Drago Bokal wrote:

Slovensko is equivalent to “Slovenian” in Slovenian. Thus, in your
terms, you are suggesting to
replace “Slovensky” with “Slovakian”. Would that be OK with you?

It has always seemed quite peculiar to me that egroupware announces some
languages in with their English names and some in their native names.
That is inconsistent at best and obviously causes conflicts here. I
would suggest a scheme that shows the language first in the currently
selected language and then the local name in parentheses. So with
English by default it would look like this:

English (English)
German (deutsch)
Slovenian (slovenščina)
Slovak (slovenčina)
…

Then when you switch to German it would be

englisch (English)
deutsch (deutsch)
slowenisch (slovenščina)
slowakisch (slovenčina)
…

etc.

This would mean that each language would have to provide a translation
for the names of every other language, but that should be doable.

Extra credit for figuring what Slovak is called in Slovenian and vice
versa.

eGroupWare-developers mailing list
eGroupWare-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/egroupware-developers

Drago_Bokal 2006-02-20 18:40:58 UTC #8

Dear Peter,

the solution you propose is definitely the most reasonable one. However,
someone has to implement it first. “Slovenščina” is of course a possible
way of putting it, but the č is very likely to show wrongly, thus until
then I would prefer to put “slovenski jezik”. I believe that does not
conflict with some Slovak word?

Regards,
Drago

Peter Eisentraut je dne 18.2.2006 13:45 napisal(a):