Instant messaging (chat) module

userT 2018-02-28 17:41:56 UTC #1

Hello, new here.

I already did a search in the forums for similar threads before posting, and only hits I found are in the “Old” category.

I read Instant Messaging (IM) XMPP module was discontinued since long ago. Why?
And, is there a possibility to get back this module for current eGroupware?
I think it’s still useful for certain environments.

Thanks.

userT 2018-03-02 09:12:49 UTC #2

Was it wrong to ask this?

grefabu 2018-03-02 09:40:39 UTC #3

Nothing. but sometimes there is no answer,…

But yes, I had the same question few days ago. Think it’s a matter of money or
free work (and beer or coffee)

A video conferencing would nice too.

There are many wishes but actualy no solution.

Bye

Gregor

userT 2018-03-05 17:43:16 UTC #4

So really no plans for a chat module at all?

RalfBecker 2018-03-06 06:26:35 UTC #5

We see the need for an IM app, but we have not found the time to develop one.

Ralf

StefanU 2018-03-13 20:15:44 UTC #6

Hi user T,

You mean the phpFreeChat-Modul? This is not developed for a long time and does not support PHP>=7.0.
And it was not an xmpp-client, but a separate chat-system.

It would not be possible to develop our own xmpp-client. An existing client would have to be integrated again.

What are your requirements?
Check out this client: JSXC. Would that meet your requirements?

Greetings
Stefan

userT 2018-03-16 00:07:19 UTC #7

Thanks very much for your answers.

The requirement we would seek is, something like a small chat/instant messaging server built-in on eGroupware. Nothing fancy, just functional. It wouldn’t even need to be the XMPP protocol (I heard it’s already dying nowadays, yet I don’t know why).

Main reason for this is precisely to not have to keep two different databases (eGroupware itself and the chat server we would need to install if wanting instant messaging functions).

Just as short off-topic, a knowledge base would actually be useful at least for our case, but as already stated in the other thread, it is already “deprecated”?

Again, thanks.

StefanU 2018-03-19 21:51:13 UTC #8

Hi userT.

What else?

Definitely not!
If you are interested in security and privacy, XMPP ist the right choice.
Read this:

On the subject:
Client and server are two different things. We need to see if we can get both implemented or just the client. That’s not even done. And somehow someone has to pay for the effort…
You do not have to host the XMPP server yourself: XMPP hosting

I agree with you.

Alternative: Documents in the file manager with CollaboraOnlineOffice…

Greetings
Stefan

userT 2018-03-20 16:30:40 UTC #9

Correct me if wrong, but I thought there were other non-proprietary chat protocols, such as IRC or SIMPLE…

I tried doing the search again, and I found one or two forums implying that XMPP “seems” to be dying partly because XMPP idea was to be an “universal” chat protocol, and now the big services such as Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, etc, are forcing their own proprietary protocols (AIM is no more); and also because XMPP protocol itself is “over-engineered” (don’t know what this could mean).

Thanks for that. But it’s also clear something else would be needed to actually see something on eGroupware itself.

So now all wiki/knowledge base related stuff would need to be done through the file manager?

userT 2018-04-11 16:58:36 UTC #10

Excuse me, any more ideas by chance?
Thanks again.

Alex_Slepyshev 2018-04-15 20:50:14 UTC #11

I create android app to integrate Ticket system . I use SIP/SIMPLE for send/receive messages. Then i create XMPP for alternate channel to transfer messages and files as result of Ticket.

StefanU 2019-01-12 18:42:10 UTC #12

Hi userT,

have a look:

Greetings
Stefan